| Librarything SeriesJoin LibraryThing to post. This topic is currently marked as 'dormant'—the last message is more than 90 days old. You can revive it by posting a reply. I wanted to open up a discussion about how periodicals are cataloged and then listed in CK series. From what I can tell, there are at least 2 different approaches that LT members use in cataloging periodicals. 1) There are those who catalog each issue as a separate work. 2) There are those who catalog the periodical in general as a work, and then list which issues they hold in the comments - which could include many issues. I'm in the 2nd camp. In this, I follow the example of actual library catalogs, which typically have a single catalog entry for the periodical, which lists library holdings, rather than separate catalog entries for each issue.* I'm also not the only member who does this. The series field seems to be used a lot to link cases of approach 1 together, but when that happens, there often seems to be some misunderstanding of cases from approach 2. In some instances, I've noticed they're included in the series, but given a number and sometimes a canonical name of 'unknown.' That in my view isn't correct, since these are entries for the generic periodical. It seems that either they shouldn't be included in the series at all, or they should be left as generic (unnumbered) entries. I also don't understand why the canonical name would be changed. * Here's an example of how it's done in one RL library, which gives an idea of the model I and others are using: the catalog entry for the periodical The Economist, in the Los Angeles Public Library: Title(s) The economist. Branch Holdings Central Library holdings shown. To check branch holdings go to http://www.lapl.org/catalog/branch_periodicals.html Uniform Title Economist (London, England : 1843). Publisher London : Economist Newspaper Ltd., 1843- {{etc. etc. Some fields omitted from example}} LIBRARY HAS: 106- (1928-) Microfilm=106-297,338- 1928-1985 1996- Hardcopy=298-337 1986-1995. Current issues held at Reference Desk. Retained in hardcopy until microfilm received. As a stopgap measure for one of the problems, why not use a canonical title of 'Periodical title General/Unknown'? I'm not sure how to resolve the problem of periodicals being entered in different ways - I think that would require changing the way add books works. I deleted the canonical title for National Geographic which led to one big plus, as the title now comes near the top when using general search. I kept the magazine in the series as I guess it doesn't do any harm, but I did change the title label so it no longer is listed as 'unknown'. Edited to say, someone has put it all back again. I strongly feel that work titles should not be changed for frivolous reasons such as series listings. If the title is good enough for the Library of Congress and other entry sources, (I used ILCSO (Illinois Libraries)) it should be good enough for LT. If no one disagrees strongly I will delete the canonical title once again. 2 - Just to be clear: I do NOT think that the fact that periodicals are entered in different ways is a problem. Both are valid ways of cataloging. The difficulty is, I think, that people who use one method might assume that everyone does, and make changes to site-wide data (combinations, CK) that reflect their own assumptions about how periodicals are or should be cataloged, but not the actual practice of the people who cataloged the works. Also, I don't see why using a canonical title at all is helpful in this situation. Why not leave the title as it is, which is, presumably, just the periodical title? 4> Right, I was thinking 'problem' as in 'something that isn't easy to deal with when it gets attention'. If you remove the canonical title, someone is going to add it back in. Kathryn is already seeing that. So, instead, add a descriptive one that makes it clear that this particular work is both for a general entry and for unspecific individual editions. That could (should?) be added to the disambiguation notice, too, but if the CT is going to keep getting added if it's removed, put one in that works for both. I actually think the case Kathryn mentions IS a generic entry for the periodical as a whole; I looked at a few of the members' catalogs, and that seems to be the case. Several list specific holdings in the comments field, consistent with the approach 2 I describe above. I would suggest adding a disambiguation note to that effect, but that could just get removed. I don't want to get into an edit war. The other option would be to separate out editions and generate a new work page for generic editions, but that seems like unnecessary extra work. Ah...I think I might be confused about what is actually going on with that work, then, and what you're wanting it to do. I've been using approach 1, since I eventually want to add the stories and poems inside the issues. I started to add mine and other people's periodicals done in approach 1 to the series entries, since the approach 1 people differ in whether to use the editor or nothing as the author and it's very hard to find which issues have been cataloged. I am not adding approach 2 periodicals to the series entry nor do I see how canonical title helps any of this. (BTW, in cases where libraries want to keep track of the individual articles in a periodical issue or when individual issues have individual titles, approach 1 would be what the cataloger would do.) Without some other means of dispute resolution, not wanting to get into an edit war just means that the other person wins. Perhaps an edit war is just what is needed to get this other person to come here to discuss the issue instead of unilaterally imposing their point of view. The canonical title on that National Geographic entry is 'National Geographic'. Could someone explain why that's bad? 10> http://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/changelog.php?item=10250572&type... I'd rather not make this thread's discussion about any specific case, but rather about how we deal with periodicals in general - for series, canonical title, and combining purposes - given that people have different cataloging approaches. (edited for typo) 10> Someone had set it to National Geographic Unknown on the assumption that since no particular issue was selected then the issue the record is for is unknown. This supposedly made it easier to get all the magazines into their proper spots in the series. As to whether National Geographic is a good Canonical Name, that depends on what would it be if the Canonical Name were left blank. 10, 13: It is already blank now. ah - wait, some separating going on... not sure where it went. 13> The CT should be blank now. I deleted it last night to see what it turned into, and it looks like no one has reset it yet. (Unless you're talking about the Author CN, then who knows...) #1 - I've never previously catalogued periodicals but for some time I've been contemplating cataloguing my collection of issues of Waterlog, so I've been looking into this. My reason for cataloguing would be to better keep track of their locations and some of their content (mainly the latter). I can't see any efficient (that is, easy and quick to use) way of doing this other than by cataloguing each issue as a separate work and applying a selection of tags. Your 'second camp' seems to me to be tailored to the needs of public libraries and to be of doubtful value to the personal libraries of which LT, I imagine, is mainly composed; but, as always, I'm open to the possibility that I've overlooked some efficient ways of doing things. I think the 'second camp' takes into account the labor shortage when it comes to trying to catalog every issue of a periodical. It's just not worth it to pay someone to do that. We don't have so much of a labor shortage here. 16> Your 'second camp' seems to me to be tailored to the needs of public libraries and to be of doubtful value to the personal libraries of which LT, I imagine, is mainly composed If I cataloged periodicals, I'd fall into the second camp. Here's why. I wouldn't be interested in tracking individual articles on LT; it's not the right solution for that. Let's say I had a complete run of National Geographic from 1985 on, except that I lost May 1994 somewhere along the line. I could either add a couple hundred items, one per issue, or I could add 'National Geographic Magazine', and note in the comments that I have issues xxx through zzz except yyy. Far more efficient, and more useful for the 'which issues do I have' question. If you aren't interested in finer granularity than the issue, and have a large number of issues, this approach makes more sense. (On the other hand, if I only have a few issues, then it makes more sense to catalog them individually. Both have their merits.) 18> I think the real answer is that they'll be plenty of instances of people wanting to do it BOTH ways, and that for any camp it will make more sense to them. LT just doesn't handle this well at the moment, and it shows. Perhaps the contained in/by functionality will eventually come to the rescue. People could catalog the general 'omnibus' work that is ALL National Geographic (noting in some other field which issues they actually have), or they could catalog the individual issues. #18 - I wouldn't be interested in tracking individual articles on LT; it's not the right solution for that. Why not, and what would you suggest as a better solution? 20> I'm not going to try to talk you out of doing it your way; I'm explaining why an individual person might want to do it the other way. If cataloging individual articles here works well for you, great. I find it adds too much clutter for me. I don't think I'd bother to catalog individual articles for leisure reading like Nat Geo; for scholarly articles, I'd use something like CiteULike. (I've not heard of 'Waterlog' and don't know where it falls on this spectrum.) 21> I'm curious, as you've done this a few times. Why do you keep saying 'individual articles' rather than 'individual issues'? Is it a case of library jargon versus non-library definition? Each time you say it, I get the image of people cataloging each article that's in an issue separately, much like people individually catalog short stories that make up an anthology. I imagine because the reason that some people have given for listing individual issues is for the purpose of tracking articles. And if you're adding each issue its only one more step to add each article. I actually think the LT system handles it just fine whichever approach you want to use. The problems arise when one camp assumes there's only a single way to do it, and then makes changes that affect site-wide data. It would be problematic if people with approach 2 decided to combine together all individually-cataloged issues into one work for the whole journal, just as it would be problematic if people from approach 1 decided to treat instances of approach 2 (generic work for the journal) as if they were incorrect, unclear or deficient instances of approach 1. 23> Yes, but it's a completely different topic than the general topic of this thread. So I'm trying to figure out if when lorax says articles she means what most of us would think of as entire issues. 24> Except, people with approach 2 couldn't really legitimately do that, could they? When you combine together different editions into a work, those different editions are supposed to each have the same content as one another. This would be a pretty clear cut instance of LT working as it is designed. Individual issues of periodicals ARE individual works. The place where it gets fuzzy is when you basically make custom boxed sets. That's where you start getting into fuzzy undefined area in terms of how the LT framework applies. 22> Rankamateur mentioned wanting to track content of issues -- not just which issues he has, but what's inside the issues. I've been referring to the finer-granularity-than-issues content as 'articles'. (I guess it could be stories or poetry, instead, depending on the nature of the periodicals.) #21, #26 - Yes, I wanted to track individual articles, but not to catalogue them individually, thus I was thinking of using tags to do so. #24 - This worry is the reason I haven't entered my periodicals yet. (#21 - It's simply a fishing magazine - I don't know why I used the title rather than generalised - there's no significance to it.) 26> Ah, okay. Just seems like it's yet another topic for suggestions. Collection->Issue->Article More and more, it seems like the contained in/by ideas would work so much better for periodicals than Series do. 24. It would be illegitimate in both cases. That's the point I'm trying to make. Individual issues of periodicals ARE individual works. In your view. Not in mine. I consider the periodical in general a work. I'm ok with leaving the issues, which others consider and have cataloged as individual works, as works. I would just like others to leave my work - the generic periodical - as a work, and not second guess it and assume that I'm trying to catalog an individual issue as a work and not succeeding. What you are defining as 'custom box sets' may well be something I consider to be a single work - the periodical in general - of which I am specifying my holdings. I don't want my entry to be considered as a custom box set and tried to fit into someone else's schema of what counts as a work, and manipulated just to fit a series listing, or grouped together with various unclear or unknown copies and presumed to be some kind of misfit. 29> I don't mean in my view or your view, I mean by the LT definition of a work. What are works? The purpose of works is social. Books that a library catalog considers distinct can nevertheless be a single LibraryThing 'work.' A work brings together all different copies of a book, regardless of edition, title variation, or language. This works system will provide improved shared cataloging, recommendations and more. For example, if you wanted to discuss M. I. Findley's The Ancient Economy, you wouldn't really care whether someone else had the US or the British edition, the first edition or the second. What is a book then? The 'This Book' data on the book information page is particular to YOUR copy—the distinct edition that's sitting on your bookshelf. None of the combining and separating of works will change anyone's personal book data. http://www.librarything.com/concepts I'm not sure how you go from this to 'I put three different copies of National Geographic magazine together on my shelf, and now that is a 'work.' If you go that route, there really IS no such objective concept as a work any longer, as it can be whatever you want it to be. But I think there's a difference here between what really is a work and what is permitted as a work. Tim permits movies, cds, bobcats and perfumes to be works. He doesn't embrace it, though, and it's one of these 'off-label' uses. I'm not taking a stand against custom boxed sets such as yours, because LT simply doesn't have a good way to handle them and they are legitimate book-ish things (far more than movies, cds, bobcats and perfumes). So don't take me as calling you a misfit. Far from it. You're trying to solve a very real shortcoming of LT. That doesn't change the fact that LT has certain concepts that are defined in such a way that they don't fit what you're doing. Sorry, but we're going to have to agree to disagree here. I am following the example of numerous actually existing libraries in their cataloging practice. They use one entry - i.e. one work - for the periodical, and list their holdings. LT wasn't designed to list periodicals, sure, but I am using the ISSN as the distinctive mark of a 'work' in the periodical world. To repeat: I am not the only one who catalogs periodicals in general as works on LT. To me this is much more intuitive and natural than listing each individual issue as a work, for which I've never seen precedent in any library catalog -- and library cataloging is my model for what we're doing here and how to list my own books. All I'm asking is that people not enforce their own assumptions about what counts as a work in the cases of periodicals on my cataloging. PS - I meant the work was being considered as a misfit (and thus various cludgy solutions are being devised to make it 'fit' a model it wasn't meant to fit), not that members are being considered misfits. 31> I'm not really sure what following the examples of libraries has to do with it. Do libraries have a concept of work vs book? Not to my knowledge, but I'm no librarian. If they have no concept of work vs book, how do you think their cataloging is really applicable to LT? This is exactly why I started this thread. I would like people to be aware that there is more than one approach actually being used on LT to catalog periodicals. In my view, both approaches are legitimate. Some people, however, seem to assume that that theirs is the (only) 'correct' one, and thus try to fit other people's data into that model. I'm happy to let those who do approach 1 continue to do so. Just leave my data alone. ETA - sorry if I sound/am grumpy. Need more sleep. But there is no LT 'rule' about how periodicals are supposed to be cataloged. LT wasn't designed for them. A periodical issue is not a book. Therefore the application of the work/book distinction does not work neatly here anyway. I am just trying to make people aware that the way they may assume things are done or supposed to be done is not the only way they could be - or are being - done, nor the only legitimate way. 33> But that's the thing, you ARE using the LT model. You can't use LT and not use the model. By 'the LT model', I mean a model of works and books, like the above. And as it says above, works are shared social concept and books are your own data that is sacrosanct. So really, LT is built around people not leaving works alone. It's like if I said 'Hey, I'm going to be cataloging all my books as a single work per author per series. So for example for an Fleming I'm going to make a 'James Bond' work. And I want everyone else to leave it alone and not combine it into any of the other James Bond books and not touch it at all.' If you decide LT works don't have to simply be abstract forms of a single published work, then this is as legit as anything else. I think you misunderstand what I said; I didn't use the words LT model. Anyway, someone who uses approach 2 could take the social 'work' concept and say that what's interesting is whether or not anyone else shares a subscription to The Economist, not whether they share a particular issue. If e.e. cummings subscribed to the same journals as me, that's a point of social interest, despite the fact that our lifetimes, and thus our holdings, didn't overlap. Personally, I'm not going to make that argument or act on it: I'm not going combine all instances of The Economist - all generic entries and all issues - together into one big The Economist work. That's because I respect the fact that others want to treat their individual periodical issues as books (and moreover, as separate books, i.e. as works). Let's leave aside the work/book distinction for a minute, since that brings in another set of issues, and just look at it at the 'book' level. Approach 1 people are cataloging individual issues of periodicals as if they were 'books.' They're not, but fine. Approach 2 people are cataloging the ISSN-identified periodical as if it were a 'book.' These 2 'books' are not the same and should not be combined. Nor should my instance of the 'book' (the generic journal) be renamed because it doesn't fit someone else's idea of what belongs. Here are some examples of examples of what looks to me to be generic periodical cataloging, just so it's clear what I mean by approach 2: http://www.librarything.com/work/details/27 http://www.librarything.com/work/details/55798680 http://www.librarything.com/work/details/53639883 http://www.librarything.com/work/details/53670911 http://www.librarything.com/work/details/53559466 http://www.librarything.com/work/details/65471030 http://www.librarything.com/work/details/31708617 36> But if you did combine two different issues of the Economist, you'd be very clearly violating the LT rules. You'd be combining a real, physical book with another real, physical book that doesn't have the same content. You'd be combining 'Lord of the Rings' with 'The Hobbit.' No one would even have to question if you'd be wrong. On the other hand, the whole existence of this thread shows that the other case (combining random bundles of issues) is a much more debatable one. And as far as the social aspect goes, this is exactly why I say the contained in/by seems a better approach. It could still let these social aspects interact in a useful way. Approach 1 people are cataloging individual issues of periodicals as if they were 'books.' They're not, but fine. How in the word are they not? Just because they're part of a greater whole? How is this different than the serialized form of novels, which ARE considered books in their own right? Or a trade paperback of a graphic novel, which IS considered a book, even though it may only be a few issues from an entire run? I think we have this disagreement on a fundamental level. If we can't even agree that a thing that's part of a whole can be a 'book', I'm not sure what we can agree on. A book and a magazine are different things. I'm fine with you cataloging individual issues of a magazine as if they were books. I'm using books here in the everyday terminology, not the specialized LT concept. LT was designed for cataloging books, in the everyday sense of the word. Both ways of cataloging periodicals - approach 1 and approach 2 - were not really what LT was designed to do, because it was designed for books. But be that as it may, I have no problem with people cataloging periodicals. They're not books in the everyday sense of the word book. I'm ok with them being cataloged as if they were books and as 'books' in the LT-specific sense/concept of book. If we can't even agree that a thing that's part of a whole can be a 'book', I'm not sure what we can agree on. This is not what I'm saying. This is going off into a different point. Please look at the examples of the ways that other people have cataloged periodicals in general as a work. Clearly you disagree that this is a legitimate way of cataloging. Others think that it is. I understand your point of view. I don't want to catalog the way you prefer for periodicals because - as lorax explains very well above - I'm not interested in cataloging periodicals that way, or distinguishing that level of detail. What I really disagree with is any dogmatic view that there is one single correct way to catalog periodicals on LT - which as you rightly point out was not designed to catalog periodicals in the first place. 38> I don't know how I can say this again clearly enough, as you keep thinking I'm saying the opposite: I am not against people cataloging periodicals however they want on LT. I am not saying there is one single correct way to catalog periodicals on LT. What I keep trying to say is that you're swimming upstream. It's why we wind up having a long thread like this. Things won't work as well as they will with boooks. People will combine in ways you don't like, etc. I find that approach 1 is less swimming upstream than approach 2 because it more closely fits the LT work/book model. That's the simple point I've been talking about, not about some dogmatic approach that there's a 'correct' way. Thanks for the clarification. I think we've been talking past each other. It may be that what I'm trying to explain is a hard point to get across clearly or to understand, and thus people are liable to misunderstand what those of us who catalog generic periodicals are doing. That's why I started the thread: to open a discussion; to make people aware that there's more than one way that this is done. In saying so often that the approach 2 goes against the work system, it sounded to me like you were saying it is not a legitimate way of doing things. Hence my confusion/misunderstanding. I see now that that's not what you were saying. 41> No, the only thing I ever said was illegitimate was your example of combining together different works that had completely different content. I totally understand what you're trying to say, I think we just have some fundamental disagreements on what things should be considered LT works. Perhaps it's that sometimes you interpreted my use of the term 'work' to not be talking about LT works. But when you say things like 'individual issues of periodicals are not individual works', I just can't agree with anything you derive from such a position. Maybe it's because you didn't mean LT works. But LT works are an extremely fine-grained thing. If you're claiming that a magazine that I can go up to a newstand and buy and put on my bookshelf doesn't count as a work, I am going to be a bit dogmatic on that one. If that's what you think, I really do think you are wrong in an objective way, not just a subjective one. A short story can be considered an LT work, for crying out loud. A poem can be considered an LT work. I just do not agree with the logic that somehow an issue of a periodical (apparently, not a periodical that is a comic book, as you didn't disagree with that) is not an LT work. That's not the same as not understanding the logic. For *my* catalog, and my use, I do not consider individual issues of periodicals to be works. There's a distinction here between 'I consider' and 'can be considered' or 'should be considered.' I am fine with the fact that other people do consider them works, in their own catalogs. I am not making any claims about what can be considered a work on LT. I'm talking about what I consider to be a work, for my purposes, as someone who uses the second approach. Similarly, I do not consider a poem to be a work for LT cataloging purposes unless it was separately published in book form; I would not include that as a work in my own catalog. However, I see that others do, and I would not keep them from doing so. (It would be nice, of course, if LT had a better way of dealing with differing formats; I would prefer, for instance, if individual scholarly articles or short stories didn't show up as equivalent to books (in everyday use) on author pages, or if there were some good way of distinguishing these. But that's another issue.) The problem I'm trying to highlight is that sometimes people see works of type 2 and assume that they are works of type 1 with some data missing, and combine them, rename them, do other things with them, in order to fit them into some idea of what they think the data should look like. This doesn't affect anyone's core catalog data, sure, but it does affect how my entry shows up in various places, for me: it can mean that my entry gets wrongly combined with others with which it does not belong, or that my entry starts displaying the wrong title in the 'work title' column, because someone else decided the canonical name should reflect some status that doesn't apply to my data. 42> But can you see my point about how even though you can see that individual issues of a periodical DO fit the concept of an LT work (even if that's not the way you want to organize yours), that a random collection of issues does not naturally fit the concept of an LT work? Do you see my analogy with deciding to catalog all my James Bond books as one single 'James Bond' 'work'? Do you see how that's fighting against the way LT works fit, as part of a community with people editing the data all over the place? Can you see how since every person's 'National Geographic' work will contain different content depending on which issues they mean it to include, how that makes it not fit into the system in a problem free way as approach 1, regardless of your own personal preference of approaches? These are simply the points I'm trying to make, which isn't about trying to force you to do things one way or the other. 34> It's like if I said 'Hey, I'm going to be cataloging all my books as a single work per author per series. So for example for an Fleming I'm going to make a 'James Bond' work. And I want everyone else to leave it alone and not combine it into any of the other James Bond books and not touch it at all.' People in fact have been doing this for years, either to duck the 200-book limit, out of laziness, or both. Leaving them alone and uncombined is all we can do -- and, unlike rsterling's case, there's no library precedent for this practice. 43 - I see what you're saying, but I disagree. You are saying that what I consider to be a work, and catalog as such, isn't really a work. I understand that you don't want to force others to change the way they use their catalog. But you can see why I got confused and thought you were saying it wasn't legitimate to catalog periodicals that way, because they aren't really works. With all this discussion, it's still hard not to read what you're saying as 'you're doing it the wrong way.' There is no right way. There are no rules on how to handle periodicals. There are different practices. Mine has precedent, and logic to it. Yours does as well. Fine. Let's let both live. That is all I'm saying. I would like to get some other people to weigh in on this, because I don't think I'm doing a very good job explaining the logic of cataloging generic journals - using the ISSN - as single works: why either library catalogs or individual personal catalogs might want to do so. I don't think the analogy to RL books applies very well here because a periodical is a different beast. 45> For what it's worth, your approach, and your explanation, make perfect sense to me. I think I'm thinking of them as 'all issues of this magazine within a timeframe', and brightcopy seems to be thinking of them as 'an arbitrary random set of issues', which may be part of the disconnect. The unified whole is also how I think of my own periodicals, which I don't catalog here; I'd say that I have say, Birding magazine from 2008 onwards, not 'I have January 2008, and February 2008, and March 2008...' The latter approach seems like listing individual chapters in a book to me. 45> With all this discussion, it's still hard not to read what you're saying as 'you're doing it the wrong way.' I'm sorry it's difficult, but that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, 'You're doing it the way that will most likely cause you difficulties because it maps to LT structures poorly.' Approach #1 isn't the 'right' way to do it, either. It's the way that causes less grief to the person using it. I know, I know, to you that's just not acceptable because the grief of having individual issues in your catalog outweighs the grief of having other people edit 'your' data. What I think is the RIGHT way to do it is only with an expansion of LT. I think that's one thing maybe we can agree on. As a semi-related topic, there's a work that came up recently in discussion in Bug Collectors. You posted on the thread, so I'm sure you remember it. But I'll recap for the record. Basically, two (or possibly three) different books named 'Italy' were written by George Kish. They didn't have ISBNs. They got combined together (either automatically by the system or manually by a user) and there's no way to separate them. This is the kind of thing I'm talking about when I say you're swimming upstream. It's not about right or wrong, but about how much LT is going to fight you on the different approaches. 46> No, I believe you'll find the 'entire run' (for a year, etc.) is only a subset of what rsterling is talking about. Look at the examples he posted. They're almost all scattered collections of issues. Ok, so I'm swimming upstream. Obviously I'm not the only one. I'm posting this so that others can perhaps understand that there's a method of cataloging periodicals that hadn't occurred to them, and won't fight the tendency quite so much. My way doesn't cause me any grief, unless LT members - not LT as a data structure - start doing things with my entry that aren't appropriate for my entry. 49> Considering your library is private, wouldn't it be pretty difficult for other LT members to tell what you are cataloging by looking in your comments? I'm talking about the general issue. I'm talking about the existence of 2 different approaches. I'm asking people who use one approach to be aware of and respectful of the other approach. I'm definitely swimming upstream in this thread. ETA in my own case, I've had miscombinations happen when I was public, and when I had specifications like those in the examples in my comments field. I separated them out and put a disambiguation notice on. But I'm not talking about my own library per se or privacy status - which comes with its own, separate set of issues - but rather the general issue, which concerns not only me but other people who adopt approach 2. 51> The general issue is always made up of individual cases. As such, I think it's pretty relevant. So, basically, if anyone wants to combine/separate editions that just say 'National Geographic'/no author/no ISBN, they need to go look at the publication data for each individual book or the comments. One thing that would come in handy there would be being able to jump to specific books that roll up into editions which roll up into works. Right now it's a right pain in the butt to get from the editions list to individual book data. And I suppose it would be impossible for the private users. Or is the better solution that nobody should ever stick their nose into periodicals and try to keep them cleaned up like they do all the other works on the site? Isn't there a more simple way to deal with this? I actually can't find which the 'current' version of the National Geographic 'work' is but what about: (a) Separating out your edition from the current work (you could add in a dummy ISBN if necessary). (b) For the newly separated work - (i) Set a disambiguation notice something along the lines of 'This work is for the National Geographic periodical as a single work. Individual issues should not be combined here' (ii) Set the canonical title to something like 'National Geographi Periodical' (you could leave it blank, but I think this might help prevent future combining/editing) (iii) Set the series to something like (3000|omnibus) (iv) Any other known camp (2) entries can be combined here. (c) On the old work, set a disambiguation notice along the lines of 'This work is for unknown/unspecified individual issues of the National Geographic magazine. If you consider the entire periodical as a single work, please separate out your edition and combine it with the relevant omnibus work' (d) Leave a note in the combiners! group. 53> (ii) Set the canonical title to something like 'National Geographi Periodical' (you could leave it blank, but I think this might help prevent future combining/editing) That was actually the first response to the thread. I believe the 'Approach 2' posters have a feeling that this is somehow an imposition on them. From messages 3 and 4, they appear to be agin' it. Wow, I'm overwhelmed. I thought the original post was really clear and the only problem was how to tell people using approach 1 and using series to group things not to try and group the approach 2 works. I think it's pretty clear to most of us who have been around a while that cataloging periodicals on LT is not what it was designed for, but the fact is, that because each of our libraries is our own, we can each do what is useful and meaningful for us. It's in the common areas that we need to understand the different ways people are doing things. 32: Actually librarians invented the concept of work (fairly recently) to help deal with a number of thorny cataloging issues. Tim borrowed the concept and gave it a social rather than a bibliographical meaning. In the library concept of work an entire run of a periodical could be a work. So could an individual issue. So could an article/story/poem in an issue. It's clear why this is so, since different people on LT have had reasons for defining all these different things as works depending on the information they're trying to collect in their catalogs. I think people need to figure out what's more annoying - being combined with various individual issues and them showing up as unknown or having a canonical title that maybe isn't perfect but makes it clearer what the work actually is? I can see the problem with 'unknown' in the canonical title, because people using approach (2) know which copies they are, but I can't see how having 'periodical' at the end would pose such a problem? So, for those people actually using approach (2) what is the part of how things are know that bugs you most? What can you live with? I'm just trying to think whether there's not some sort of logical way we can separate the works so that those using approach (2) have their own 'work' that should not have any copies held by those using approach (1) and it's clear what the work is for so people don't combine them again. Then those using approach (2) can do what they like with the rest of the CK. 55: I think the only way you can 'tell' people that you're using an alternative approach is to make it clear from the work what it is and I think that involves a good disambiguation notice and probably some sort of canonical title. Not everyone who combines, separates or edits CK looks at the Series group (or talk at all for that matter), so I think the work needs to make your point on its own. I have been under the impression that some people list each issue of their periodicals separately in order to show each cover separately. I am not sure that this has been discussed. If this person has 150 issues of a periodical and it is considered to be one work, then they have a mass of duplicates. Most peridoicals only have ISSN's, books have ISBN's. If an item has both an an ISSN and an ISBN, what is the thought of people in this thread. I have a 900 page volume whose ISSN is 0084-1382, hardcover ISBN is 0-88687-659-1 and softcover ISBN is 0-88687-658-3 (LCCN is 4-3781). I read up to about msg #50 and I have to leave so I hope this comment is still relevant. Perhaps it would help to think of entering a magazine with missing issues as one 'book' as equivalent to entering a book with missing pages with which pages are missing in the comments. I don't think anyone would say that a book with missing pages is a different work than the main work. I think the disambiguation notice is the best way to go. However, sometimes these are ignored or disregarded, and things get combined anyway. I don't see any need to change the Canonical Title unless it's confusing (ETA by which I mean if a weird version of the title is coming up as the dominant one, or in other words for the same reasons we'd always use Canonical Title). The periodical title on its own -- Annals of Ancient Greek Basketweaving -- seems fine as a title, no? I would just be happy if people combining and renaming would not automatically presume that every instance of a periodical is intended by the cataloger to be for a specific issue - that people be aware that some entries might be intended as generic entries. Sometimes that means looking at members' catalogs to try to gauge if the person meant to catalog a single issue, or the periodical as a whole. Obviously that doesn't mean that people shouldn't try to clean up periodicals - that doesn't follow at all - but rather that in cleaning them up, some care and caution is taken not to try to fit square pegs in round holes. 55 - 'the only problem was how to tell people using approach 1 and using series to group things not to try and group the approach 2 works.' 'It's in the common areas that we need to understand the different ways people are doing things.' Yes, those are good ways to put it. 54 - I believe the 'Approach 2' posters have a feeling that this is somehow an imposition on them ?? Where did you get that impression? Personally, I'm happy to separate things when they get mistakenly combined and to put disambiguation notices on, either retrospectively, or pre-emtively, where necessary. It's not an imposition. I just don't think Canonical Title is the way to do disambiguation in this case; no need to add artificial status information to the title, particularly when we have a disambiguation field specifically for that purpose. #60: Well, yeah, if I took La Faraono and broke it into three pieces, I'd be back to La Faraono, volume 1, volume 2 and volume 3, not three copies of the La Faraono work. Which is a touch more accurate comparison, since just having National Geographic doesn't mean that your series intersect at all. 60> Where did you get that impression? You don't think it's a correct summation? It's something that people are imposing on you, and you don't think it's necessary yourself. Especially when people stick on thinks like 'Unknown' or otherwise make your title something less than you'd like (e.g. just 'National Geographic' instead of something less pleasing - 'National Geographic (Periodical)'). Would like to mention a third option: 3.) Catalog periodicals by volume / year. This is used much (here in Holland at least) because people don't necessarily want to consult every issue when they want to consult a periodical. That could get huge after all. Not saying people should adopt this method, of course. 63 >> This sounds like a pretty logical way to enter periodicals to me, and I've noticed several members are doing so, but rsterling (msg 1) would like to discuss how periodicals are cataloged and then listed in CK series. What has been happening in some cases recently is that canonical titles have been added to CK to change periodicals entered by volume / year to year / volume. There is absolutely no reason for doing this. Series order can be set by the CK series statement. I'm late weighing in on this and I am going to give you all a warning. This is a catalogers view and when a cataloger talks, eyes glaze over. Even other librarians have been known to fall asleep when we talk about cataloging, MARC, and associated topics. First what #1 is referring to is a serial (magazine or journal), mean by the publisher to be put out in successive parts, has numeric or chronological designations and is to be continued indefinitely. Of course there are a lot of serials who start and we only see one published issue. I don't know if #1 was referring to annuals (or yearbooks) which are also serials. A series is kind of serial since it bears a collective title as well as it's own title proper. It does not need a numeric designation and there is usually an ending date. (from AACR2R) Libraries handle serials in several ways. First it costs money to catalog anything and we don't have lots of it. So we use a 'serial workform' and do one record as the surrogate for the complete run of the serial, whether current or dead. However due to CONSER rules, name changes now require a new record. (And if you think I am going have 8 or 9 records in my library's catalog for Atlantic because the publisher can't make up his mind what the name of the serial is, think again. The main rule is to do what is best for your users. And remeber it costs money!) However libraries may, if it helps the user, make in analytics for issues that have a theme or other reasons. An analytical entry just means you've made a record for something that you have a complete entry. (If you look at my library catalog you will see lots of analytics for Clinical infectious diseases and Journal of infectious diseases among others. Just remeber that most of this stuff had to be originally cataloged and tagged by me - money angle again.) #58's work is a serial type, an annual. Some publishers assign an ISBN in addition to an ISSn for the complete run. It helps with inventory control and books sales when you have this type of item. Since the content does not change in format, just the facts, it is the same work. (Which is why I wondered as a newbie why some editions of my works were combined when they were very different and others which were similar were separate but that's another issue.) When someone uses a library for their data, they will get a serial record in most cases. If they don't indicate that they are cataloging a single issue, we can't know whether it is the complete run. Hence we don't know if all of the members listed under that work have an individual issue or the serial as a whole. (And as an LT user, I don't like the idea of making dummy titles as place holders - like a $h in a title field, a general material designation - but I could do that.) The problem with National Geographic is the famous 'Atlantic' problem. The publisher changed it's title in the 50's from The National Geographic magazine to National Geographic. So CONSER says this is 2 different serials. Is it? My patron wants National Geographic, its common name and doesn't care. There is nor should be a canonical title. It is one or the other depending on what issue you have and it is wrong to impose one. If I have an issue from 1902, I don't want someone saying the title is National Geographic when it is not. On to another issue, how we catalog in LT. I have a cross stitch magazine from 1984 to the present and it is published 6 times a year. That's over 140 issues so far and stiill coming. So I chose to have one LT work and indicate in the comments field the ISSN and what issues I have. I chose one representative title cover and use it (which causes another set of problems with combining). Even if I only own one or 2 issues, I still use the serial approach. By using the series page, it avoids a title search although the results should be the same. By putting a canonical title on a serial run (which can be the former or the newer title), it defeats the prupose of the title proper and I would have to oppose doing that for any reason. I do want to repeat that any approach for the user which works is not wrong - the whole run, the individual issue, the volume (however many issues that would be) or anything else that works. That's the beauty of using LibraryThing. It is one or the other depending on what issue you have and it is wrong to impose one. If I have an issue from 1902, I don't want someone saying the title is National Geographic when it is not. You're right for individual libraries in LT but not for works. It's like saying that The Philosopher's Stone and The Sorcerer's Stone is one book or the other depending on whether it was printed in England or America. LT rules say that it's one work and it has to have one title or the other with the more popular winning. 65: Why would you need/want to use the series title for OP's approach #2 (the serial title as a work (in cataloger's speak) approach)? I've only been using series titles for OP's approach #2 (the issue of a serial is a work approach). And the only reason I started doing that is because so many people were entering their approach #1 records with such varyiing forms of authors (editors, serial uniform title, 'various', blank) that there was no good way I could figure out how to find out what issues people had except to use series. #66 When we have a work for each issue, I don't see that having the correct title for the title on the issue would be wrong. The 1943 issue 4 of National Geographic Magazine should reflect its title and not be changed to National Geographic, especially if the user has entered it that way. (And I would guess that combining can be tricky if someone doesn't enter a title correctly but that's another issue entirely.) But I do agree on a uniform title (or canonical title as LT calls it) to avoid the CONSER approach when LT has works that reflect the whole series, especially if the title change is trivial. (Definition: addition of the word Magazine to the title, change in subtitle, change in title after the first 5? - I don't have my CONSER manual at home so this is a guess - words.) If the title change is radically different, I would keep it on its own record. Maybe someday we will have linking fields that would take care of this problem but I don't think it's high on my list. And #66, I do agree with you on the Rowling book, the differing languages of works, and editions in many cases being combined. These are not serials with the complexities involved. #67 Personally I wouldn't use a series for the title as a whole but only for the individual issues, especially when someone uses the current editor for the main entry. After posting yesterday, I tried to find some serials by using the search in title. It's hard to see the whole picture so I do think now that making a series page is the easiest answer for now in the first approach. Remember Ranganathan's 4th law - save the time of the reader. The series approach for loose issues does that. For those who are interested, a quick summary via Wilipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_laws_of_library_science Where using series gets interesting is the gathering approach (when someone catalogs volumes that are bound together as a unit) or the complete run of the serial (how much of the run does someone have and does it matter). With the former, how do you anticipate the hundreds of combinations that may occur with just National Geographic? And how do you account for them? I don't know the answer here because omnibus isn't quite right. This does need further discussion. And once decided, carried through by everyone doing serial combining/separating. 68: Since experienced CONSER catalogers have trouble with major/minor title changes, I don't think we're going to get Lters to do them. ;) Maybe less combining/linking of serials (since it's a non-standard use of LT) should be the norm?? #70 Serials catalogers are special people and deserve thanks. I try to avoid serials cataloging and wait for LC or a CONSER library to do it. And it's important to note that catalog librarians live by rules (AACR2R and soon RDA) and LCRIs (Library of Congress rule interpretations) but the reason always wins with me - we need to serve our users in the best way possible. I don't know how to respond to less (or more) combining since I haven't done anything except getting my serials on the correct work records. 68> But I do agree on a uniform title (or canonical title as LT calls it)... I don't agree that uniform title and canonical title are the same concept and if you think they are that could be leading to some misunderstandings. The canonical title is supposed to be the title under which the work is most commonly known and in the vast majority of cases it shouldn't be set. Only when LT picks a title that is clearly wrong by anyone's standards should it be used. #72 From what I have seen the uniform title and canonical are essentially the same. Granted Hamlet's uniform title is: Shakespeare, William, 1564-1616. Hamlet. Instead of Hamlet. But we all do agree to not use the 'official' uniform title since this play is known as Hamlet no matter whether the title proper is Hamlet; Hamlet, Prince of Denmark; The tragedy of Hamlet, etc. I do not ever assign canonical titles since I have had the bad experience of a stitching chart called Americana combining with Americana by Don DeLillo. No author so I had to put in a publisher as author (grit my teeth!) to get it not to combine. And I finally discovered that a canonical title was the problem. The title doesn't seem to need it but I left it alone. Tell me what the rules on LT are and, as a cataloger, I will follow them. (And thank you to all of the wonderful members who have helped me fix all my mistakes and have offered advice on porblems. You know who you are.) I'm not sure I've digested all of the issues above but here are a few comments. In LT it is standard for works with the same author/title/ISBN to be combined. Considering comments is a lot of work and may be impossible (private libraries), therefor they should not be part of the equation. LT will auto-combine works with identical author/title/ISBN so some book records will be lumped regardless of what the combiners do (e.g. this Nation Geographic work). To me a disambiguation notice is designed to alert users not to combine works that are in fact different by author/title/ISBN but are often combined regardless. It seems to me strange to use a disambiguation to try to differentiate your particular copy of a generically titled work. Again, as in the example above, your copy may be combined automatically despite the disambiguation notice. So in the example of National Geographic I would combine every work that does not give more specific information in the title. This would result in a work that contains book records that are known to be different (by the owner, though not by users consulting works and editions nor by the automatic system). I don't see this as a problem. It accomplishes the social function of linking users who list a periodical generically and this strikes me as more interesting than not linking them at all. It also allows for a simpler rule for combiners to follow. And, as always, it doesn't impact anyone's data in her/his own catalog. I don't see the need for a canonical title in this case, but if one is used for clarity it should at a minimum not be wrong as a description of the work, although it may not fully describe the underlying book records. To The Person(s) To Which This Pertains: Your distaste and abhorrence of the Evil Canonical Title would be so much more plausible if you didn't have them all over your own works. Plank, eye comes to mind. Currently, I do not catalog periodicals for various reasons mentioned throughout this thread. If I do decide to catalog my periodicals (of which I retain issues from several different publications), I would be most likely to follow the practices of camp 1. My reasoning for the choice of camp 1 practices is that, in the comments field of the appropriate record, I would want to list the individual articles contained within each issue. That table of contents data would quickly become unwieldy if I followed the practices of camp 2... not to mention that either the article listings or the issue listings would probably need to be bumped into the private comments field for space reasons if camp 2 practices were followed. Putting the listing of individual articles or issues in the private comments field would mean that the other comments I sometimes place there would be more difficult to locate the the quantity of data from either a listing of individual issues or articles included in the same field. In no case would I ever catalog the articles separate from the magazine issues in which those articles are contained. That practice would lead to several other difficulties with which I am not prepared to cope. I am hoping that the contains/contained in feature will soon be introduced and will handle the complications inherent in listing individual articles and stories, which is a record I would like to have for reference purposes. I'm firmly in camp #2. I would have close to a thousand new 'works' if I cataloged each serial issue separately, and I'm not about to do that. I deal with the combining issue by simply ignoring whether, or with what, any of my periodicals are combined. Most of the info I want to see is in my list view, so I have little reason ever to look at the work pages. Bumping, to keep these considerations on people's radar, since I'm seeing some work on periodicals recently that doesn't seem aware of this. 78: Perhaps you could summarize the points you think people need to remember? It's a longish thread with a lot of back and forth. +1 on 79 there. :) I;m more concerned/annoyed with the folks who are separating out copies of certain knitting magazine when they're the same issue. *sigh* Yeah, when I read the whole thing again last night I was surprised. I think the main point of the original post was this: People combining, separating, entering series, etc. should be aware that not everyone catalogs their periodicals issue by issue. Some people catalog just the whole periodical, and then list their holdings, like libraries do (I call those generic editions, or, above, approach 2). Please do not assume that everyone lists periodical issues individually, and please do not combine, separate, or add CK on that assumption. Please do not combine generic editions with individual-issue editions. 80 - That's another issue. I have seen this happening with other series as well. I do hope no one ever combines all of the Dragon magazines. I personally think that they should be individual records where each issue is under their own record. #83 Except for those of us who have lots of issues. Haven't done this title yet but plan to have only one record and I wouldn't want it combined with a single issue record. Well with 200+ Dragon magazines in existence (Or whatever the count it, I'm drawing a blank and I've hacked a catalog terminal to type this so I'm typing fast) I'd rather have 200+ in my record account than 200+ on my dupe item report. But yes I can see why one would rather have everything under one record. Another issue with placing all of those items under a single record, it makes it harder to combine with other records. I know I;ve had more than one occurrence where I've put together a series and had to list a record as Item #0 because someone has Items 3,4, and 9 (for example) as a single record. Makes a mess. #85 In the record I do not say how much of the run I own. I use my comments field for holdings as a library uses the MARC holdings field. The assumption, like a library, is the complete run. This is so simple. Either make it clear that it is the entire set of magazines, or separate it when it gets combined. eos. Either make it clear that it is the entire set of magazines This can be done by disambiguation notices, and has been, though sometimes people disregard them. There's a distinction here between 'entire set' and 'generic entry' though. I'm talking about the latter, and about an approach to cataloging that fdholt describes in 86, and that several people on LT use. My hope is that if more people are aware that there are different approaches to cataloging periodicals, it might help prevent things from being wrongly combined and wrongly separated. And I do try to write a disambiguation notice saying that this record is for the complete run of the serial and that it should not be combined with single issues. As #88 states, the notice can be ignored. Combinations and separations are easy to accomplish. Simple, even. I think this is a waste of time and effort. Combinations are easy to do, but separations can take time. However, I usually only work with serials that are not periodicals. fdholt, didn't say it was you. :) Another example is the Battlestar Galactica series. Had a few of 'Season #, Episodes 1 3 7 8-11' Those were fun. Firstly, yes, LibraryThing wasn't designed to handle periodicals ... and it shows. And unfortunately, if you have a collection that includes periodicals, that's often a reason not to use LibraryThing. I'm currently doing some volunteer work at a small museum, and I'd like them to use LibraryThing for the books in their resource room, but if LibraryThing can't cope properly with the periodicals, then we'd need two systems, which isn't a supportable option. I think they'd rather wait unto someone has a single system that's designed to deal with both types of publication. They need to catalogue 'items' that are individually movable, because they need to know where things are, and who has them. So they need the option of cataloguing by volume when they have a bound volume of issues, but also the option of cataloguing individual loose issues, and right now, I don't see any obvious structure built into Librarything that is designed to cope with that. A suggestion: 1) include a switch or checkbox for periodicals. If it's a periodical, you get an 'ISSN number' field instead of an ISBN. Include specific fields for: (a) Periodical Name, (b) Periodical ISSN (c) Volume (d) Issue Number (yearly) (e) Issue Number (global) (f) optional date as printed on the cover (dd/mm / mm / freeform), (g) Additional If 'book' names need to be unique, then the name would be automatically constructed by Librarything from the contents of those fields. So, if there's a volume number but no issue number or sub-date, then we assume that the item being catalogued is an entire volume. If an issue number or sub-date is included, we assume that it's an individual issue. If there's no volume or year or issue number or date, we assume that it's an entire collection. If we have a bound volume that's missing an issue, we can use the additional field to enter an item-specific qualifier, so that we can distinguish between two sets, 'Nature Vol.50' and 'Nature Vol.50 (incomplete). For comic collectors, the 'Additional' field could distinguish between 'SuperThing #572' and 'SuperThing #572 (Collector's Special Edition, silver cover)' The 'Additional' field could also be used to label special issues of a serial that existed outside the number sequence - special yearly indexes for science journals, Christmas specials, bonus issues, Scientific American 'Specials', and so on. If the system needs a unique ID number (taking the place of the ISBN for single books), then we could use the ISSN number with selected additional data appended (eg ISSN-YYYY, or ISSN-YYYY-Mo). If people still want to make up their own free-form systems, then fine, but LibraryThing ought to be creating and supporting a generic system for periodicals for those that want it. If someone owns 'Spiderman issue whatever', and someone else owns a copy and fills in the description that it's the famous issue that marks the first appearance of 'SuperBaddyX', then we want that information to propagate to the individual listings of everyone else who has that same issue listed individually, without relying on people magically arriving at the same way of typing out all the issue identification details into a title. We need a centralised and organised core system that people can use and tap into, and which can be changed centrally without people having to go back and reformat the titles of hundreds of issues manually. For speed, we need to be able to click on an issue, copy it, modify the issue number of the copy and resave, and have the identifying title of the copy change automatically to reflect the change without being manually retyped. If we want to get really advanced, we could have a customisation string for each ISSN number, that defines how the name of a single issue of a serial is constructed from the field data. For some serials it'd be preferable to use Volume/Issue, for others, date/year, for most comicbooks, I’d guess that an issue’s title would normally be the name of the serial plus a hash-prefixed issue number (“The Amazing Spiderman #100”). The default title for individual issues could then be changed and updated globally for a whole series without damaging any of the underlying metadata. Field “g” is the special-case field for any 'manual' qualifier text that goes onto the end of the auto-generated title, to distinguish between something like 'Batman #300 (Catwoman cover)' and 'Batman #300 (Joker cover)' (same volume, issue and date, but still different items), or between 'Physical Review Vol 40' (a bound volume) and 'Physical Review Vol 40 (yearly index)' (an cumulative index issued every year, or every few years) Once your 'periodicals' system can cope with comicbooks and science journals, then it should be able to deal with almost anything. The comicbook community are probably a good place to start, since they take cataloguing very, /VERY/ seriously, they've probably already put a fair amount of thought into most of the problems that you might come across, and they won't be shy about telling you when you've missed out a critical feature. So ErkDemon, #93, did you find an alternative to Library Thing that handles periodical as well as books? We are at the stage where we need to figure out how to handle the journals, magazines and periodicals we hold and are having a hard time figuring out what to do. This is an old post, but I would like to refresh it, as LibraryThing really needs a better way to enter in periodicals with ISSNs. The suggestion above is excellent. I agree. A way to add periodicals would be wonderful! Manual entry. Comments field. The first question is where one could get cataloging information if you did have the ISSN (like an ISBN but for serials — periodicals). I pulled a modern magazine issue at hand called Fine Books & Collections. On the masthead page I found that its ISSN is 1551-5001. Note that this is unrelated to the barcode on the magazine (0-74470-28376-8). It is probably some kind of merchandising UPC. As such, there is no easy way to quickly scan issues. Next I visited the Library of Congress site and performed an advanced search using the ISSN value. It could pull up a catalog record for the serial itself but not for the individual issue. A similar effort with the barcode number failed to bring up a record of any kind at LoC. On Amazon.com I could search by this barcode number and because some resellers happened to list it, I had success in finding this particular issue. However, this is entirely dependent on the listings made by Amazon resellers. Searching on Amazon with the ISSN fails to bring up a result. The next question would be to decide if or how the fields in the LoC serial record for this periodical would map to existing LT fields. Then there's the whole business of dealing with issue holdings. Under the present system there are no easy answers. Any data on WorldCat.org (OCLC.org) is off limits for official LT systems. For smaller magazines, finding an ISSN would be challenging. They might print it in one issue a year, if at all. Looking for a magazine by title at LoC only somewhat works. A series book magazine called Yellowback Library is not listed at all even though it has about 400 issues since 1981. It is not among their holdings (even if it should be). Another, Dime Novel Round-Up is listed because it is part of their special collections holdings. I searched for each of these by title since the ISSN was not at hand. When LoC has a listing, it is probably accurate and structured enough to be useful. As usual, the Amazon listings are probably useless. The barcodes probably won't help unless there is some kind of database one can consult that would map the barcode number to an ISSN and issue details (volume, number, date). James I looked at this thread in the hopes of solving my problem involving the listing of several decades of my Arabian horse magazines. There are at least four different series: Arabian Horse World. Arabian Horse Times. Arabian Horse News. Al Khamset. Some of them date back to the 1960s and continue at least through 2012. Most of them are massive (think 300 or more pages in each issue, because we like to look at photos of Arabians and stallion owners like to advertise with full page advertisements). I am thinking of using approach #1, because issues in the early years have articles on historic aspects which are still pertinent today, and I would like to be able to put in comments that such-and-such an issue has an article on CMK horses, or that a certain issue has the discussion about the get of *Obeyran, etc. Still mulling this over, and would love to get comments from those with more practical knowledge. I am also bumping this thread. My magazine collection is probably what I loan out the most individual works from, and the most scattered (I am quite unsure of the exact location of a number of issues at this point....). I was planning to use LT to catalog and tag them and keep track of where on Earth they have ended up (ok, maybe just North America, for now...). Since I dabble in the Combiners group, I wanted to approach it 'right'. Looks like there is no right way. I kind of guessed this from the _mess_ that is the comic book libraries on LT. Seriously, 'volume' means two different things in comics, on top of the problem of issues, omnibuses, reprints, cover variants, reboots.... I now no longer touch comic books when they turn up in my combining adventures. Too risky. I think I will use approach 1 for my own catalog, including the individuating information in my title (Volume, Issue Date, etc), and make a disambiguation note because ironically, my concern is my issues getting folded into one monolith work and being constantly told I have a few hundred duplicates. Duplicate info is useful when I actually have duplicates, not so much when I don't (currently it considers my two copies in different languages of a work duplicates, even though to me they are absolutely not. But as a combiner, I know they are a single LT work and live with the notice. But that's one little work where the content is arguably the same.). And yeah, I'll also use the comments to note the articles and probably authors and photographers (where I consider it salient. Nat. Geo. is very much so. Wood and Steel, not at all). But I'd really love for LT to handle periodicals better. It does not have to be perfect and elegant. Just... better. | Group: Librarything SeriesAboutThis topic is not marked as primarily about any work, author or other topic. TouchstonesWorks
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Serials Cataloging: What It Is, How It's Done, Why It's Done That Way Ellen Siegel Kovacic This article is based on a paper delivered by the author at an ALA preconference entitled 'Who's Afraid of Serials?' June 21-22, 1984. May 20, 2008 It would depend on what you are cataloging this issue for. Typically, if it were just a single issue of something like GQ, I would use the serial record, and then indicate in your holdings statement that you just have one issue.
A handwritten subject card from the National Library of Medicine's old card catalog recalls the precomputer days when information had to be created, classified, and sorted by hand. HMD Prints & Photos, PP059772.7.
In library and information science, cataloging (or cataloguing in British English) is the process of creating metadata representing information resources, such as books, sound recordings, moving images, etc. Cataloging provides information such as creator names, titles, and subject terms that describe resources, typically through the creation of bibliographic records. The records serve as surrogates for the stored information resources. Since the 1970s these metadata are in machine-readable form and are indexed by information retrieval tools, such as bibliographic databases or search engines. While typically the cataloging process results in the production of library catalogs, it also produces other types of discovery tools for documents and collections.
Bibliographic control provides the philosophical basis of cataloging, defining the rules for sufficiently describing information resources to enable users to find and select the most appropriate resource. A cataloger is an individual responsible for the processes of description, subject analysis, classification, and authority control of library materials. Catalogers serve as the 'foundation of all library service, as they are the ones who organize information in such a way as to make it easily accessible'.[1]
- 3Types of cataloging
- 5Cataloging standards
- 7Criticism
Six functions of bibliographic control[edit]
Ronald Hagler identified six functions of bibliographic control.[2]
- 'Identifying the existence of all types of information resources as they are made available.'[3] The existence and identity of an information resource must be known before it can be found.
- 'Identifying the works contained within those information resources or as parts of them.'[3] Depending on the level of granularity required, multiple works may be contained in a single package, or one work may span multiple packages. For example, is a single photo considered an information resource? Or can a collection of photos be considered an information resource?
- 'Systematically pulling together these information resources into collections in libraries, archives, museums, and Internet communication files, and other such depositories.'[3] Essentially, acquiring these items into collections so that they can be of use to the user.
- 'Producing lists of these information resources prepared according to standard rules for citation.'[4] Examples of such retrieval aids include library catalogue, indexes, archival finding aids, etc.
- 'Providing name, title, subject, and other useful access to these information resources.'[4] Ideally, there should be many ways to find an item so there should be multiple access points. There must be enough metadata in the surrogate record so users can successfully find the information resource they are looking for. These access points should be consistent, which can be achieved through authority control.
- 'Providing the means of locating each information resource or a copy of it.'[5] In libraries, the online public access catalogue (OPAC) can give the user location information (a call number for example) and indicate whether the item is available.
History of bibliographic control[edit]
While the organization of information has been going on since antiquity, bibliographic control as we know it today is a more recent invention. Ancient civilizations recorded lists of books onto tablets and libraries in the Middle Ages kept records of their holdings. With the invention of the printing press in the 15th century, multiple copies of a single book could be produced quickly. Johann Tritheim, a German librarian, was the first to create a bibliography in chronological order with an alphabetical author index. Konrad Gesner followed in his footsteps in the next century as he published an author bibliography and subject index. He added to his bibliography an alphabetical list of authors with inverted names, which was a new practice. He also included references to variant spellings of author's names, a precursor to authority control. Andrew Maunsell further revolutionized bibliographic control by suggesting that a book should be findable based on the author's last name, the subject of the book, and the translator. In the 17th century Sir Thomas Bodley was interested in a catalog arranged alphabetically by author's last name as well as subject entries. In 1697, Frederic Rostgaard called for subject arrangement that was subdivided by both chronology and by size (whereas in the past titles were arranged by their size only), as well as an index of subjects and authors by last name and for word order in titles to be preserved based on the title page.[6]
After the French Revolution, France's government was the first to put out a national code containing instructions for cataloging library collections.[7] At the British Museum Library Anthony Panizzi created his 'Ninety-One Cataloging Rules' (1841), which essentially served as the basis for cataloging rules of the 19th and 20th centuries. Charles C. Jewett applied Panizzi's '91 Rules' at the Smithsonian Institution.
Types of cataloging[edit]
Descriptive cataloging[edit]
'Descriptive cataloging' is a well-established concept in the tradition of library cataloging in which a distinction is made between descriptive cataloging and subject cataloging, each applying a set of standards, different qualifications and often also different kinds of professionals. In the tradition of documentation and information science (e.g., by commercial bibliographical databases) the concept document representation (also as verb: document representing) have mostly been used to cover both 'descriptive' and 'subject' representation. Descriptive cataloging has been defined as 'the part of cataloging concerned with describing the physical details of a book, such as the form and choice of entries and the title page transcription.'[8]
Subject cataloging[edit]
Subject cataloging[9] may take the form of classification or (subject) indexing. Classification involves the assignment of a given document to a class in a classification system (such as Dewey Decimal Classification or the Library of Congress Subject Headings). Indexing is the assignment of characterizing labels to the documents represented in a record.
Classification typically uses a controlled vocabulary, while indexing may use a controlled vocabulary, free terms, or both.
History[edit]
Libraries have made use of catalogs in some form since ancient times. The library of Ninevah had the first classification system. It is located in present-day Iraq. The first known cataloging occurred with ancient clay tablets. They had marks on each side of the tablet. There is evidence of catalogs dating back to approximately 310/05-240 B.C. in Sumer.[10] The Library of Alexandria is reported to have had at least a partial catalog consisting of a listing by Callimachus of the Greek literature called “Pinakes”,[9] however was have very little and poor evidence about “Pinakes.” Pinakes means list. There were originally 825 fragments of Callimachus’ “Pinakes,” but only 25 of them have survived.[11]The Chinese Imperial Library of the Han Dynasty of the 3rd century A.D. had a catalog listing nearly 30,000 items, each item similar in extent of its content to a Western scroll.[12] The first catalogs in the Islamic world, around the 11th century, were lists of books donated to libraries by persons in the community. These lists were ordered by donor, not by bibliographic information, but they provided a record of the library's inventory.[12]
Many early and medieval libraries in Europe were associated with religious institutions and orders, including the Papal library in Rome. The first Vatican Library catalog is from the late 14th century. These catalogs generally used a topical arrangement that reflected the topical arrangement of the books themselves. The Vatican Library published 'rules for the catalog of printed books'[13] in 1939. These rules were then translated to English and published in the US in 1949.[12] Meanwhile, the Sorbonne library in Paris had accumulated more than one thousand books, and in 1290 their catalog pioneered the use of the alphabet as an organizing tool.[11]
It was the growth in libraries after the invention of moveable-type printing and the widespread availability of paper that created the necessity for a catalog that organized the library's materials so that they could be found through the catalog rather than 'by walking around.' By the 17th century libraries became seen as collections of universal knowledge. Two 17th century authors, Gabriel Naudé, in France, and John Dury, in Scotland, both developed theories of systematic organization of libraries.[12] The development of principles and rules that would guide the librarian in the creation of catalogs followed. The history of cataloging begins at this point.
In ancient times in the orient the title was used to identify the work. Since the renaissance the author has been the main source of identification.
Cataloging standards[edit]
Cataloging rules have been defined to allow for consistent cataloging of various library materials across several persons of a cataloging team and across time.
Anglo-American cataloging standards[edit]
The English-speaking libraries have shared cataloging standards since the early 1800s. The first such standard is attributed to Anthony Panizzi, the Keeper of the Printed Books of the British Museum Library. His 91 rules, published in 1841, formed the basis for cataloging standards for over 150 years.[14]
Subsequent work in the 19th century was done by Charles Coffin Jewett, head of the Smithsonian library, which at the time was positioned to become the national library of the United States. Jewett used stereotype plates to produce the library's catalog in book form, and proposed the sharing of cataloging among libraries. His rules were published in 1853.[14] A disagreement with the head Smithsonian secretary caused Jewett to be dismissed from his position but soon after he accepted a position with the Boston Public Library. He was tasked with purchasing books as well as arranging them. Jewett earned the role of director of the Boston Public Library in 1858; during this time the Index to the Catalogue of a Portion of the Public Library of the City of Boston Arranged in its Lower Hall was published. The article included new cataloging information alongside many of the Smithsonian cataloging rules that Jewett created. His systems became a model for other libraries as he pushed for alphabetical card catalogs.[15]
Jewett was followed by Charles Ammi Cutter, an American librarian whose Rules for a Dictionary Catalog were published in 1876. Cutter championed the concept of 'ease of use' for library patrons.[14]
In the 20th century, library cataloging was forced to address new formats for materials, including sound recordings, movies, and photographs. Seymour Lubetzky, once an employee of the Library of Congress and later a professor at UCLA, wrote a critique of the 1949 ALA rules for entry, Cataloging Rules and Principles: A Critique of the ALA Rules for Entry and a Proposed Design for the Revision. Lubetzky's writings revealed the weaknesses in the existing rules, and spoke to the need for preparing a set of standards for a more complete and succinct code.[16] As changes in culture over time would necessitate an ever-increasing/changing list of rules, Lubetzky 'helped remedy the situation by advocating the concept of cataloging according to 'basic principles,' in place of a rule for each case that might arise.' [17] He was tasked to do extensive studies of the current cataloging rules over the time period from 1946-1969. His analyses shaped the subsequent cataloging rules.[14]
The published American and Anglo-American cataloging rules in the 20th century were:[14]
- Anglo-American rules: Catalog Rules: Author and Title Entries. 1908.
- American Library Association rules: A.L.A. Cataloguing Rules for Author and Title Entries. 1949.
- Library of Congress rules: Rules for Descriptive Cataloging in the Library of Congress. 1949.
- AACR: Anglo-American Cataloguing Rules. 1967.
- AACR2: Gorman, Michaël; Winkler, Paul Walter; Association, American Library (1978). Anglo-American Cataloguing Rules (2nd ed.). ISBN978-0-8389-3210-0.
- AACR2-R: Gorman, Michael; Winkler, Paul Walter; Aacr, Joint Steering Committee for Revision of; Association, American Library (1988). Anglo-American Cataloguing Rules (2nd revised ed.). ISBN978-0-8389-3346-6.
The 21st century brought renewed thinking about library cataloging, in great part based on the increase in the number of digital formats, but also because of a new consciousness of the nature of the 'Work' in the bibliographic context, often attributed to the principles developed by Lubetzky.[18]This was also supported by the work of the International Federation of Library Associations and Institutions on the Functional Requirements for Bibliographic Records (FRBR), which emphasized the role of the work in the bibliographic context.[19] FRBR created a tiered view of the bibliographic entity from Item, Manifestation, Expression, to Work. Item refers to the physical form of the book. Manifestation refers to the publication. Expression meaning the translation of the book from other languages. Work refers to the content and ideas of the book.[20] This view was incorporated into the cataloging rules subsequent to AACR2-R, known as Resource Description and Access (RDA).
England[edit]
The Bodleian Library at Oxford University developed its cataloging code in 1674. The code emphasized authorship, and books by the same author were listed together in the catalog.
We can trace the origins of modern library cataloging practice back to the 1830s and Anthony Panizzi's 91 rules. Panizzi's singular insight was that a large catalog needed consistency in its entries if it was to serve the user.[21] The first major English-language cataloging code was that developed by Sir Anthony Panizzi for the British Museum catalog. Panizzi's 91 rules were approved by the British Museum in 1839, and published in 1841.[22] The British Museum rules were revised up until 1936. The library departments of the British Museum became part of the new British Library in 1973.[23]
Germany and Prussia[edit]
The Prussian government set standard rules for all of its libraries in 1899. The rules were based on those of the University Library at Breslau by Karl Franz Otto Dziatzko.[24] These were adopted throughout Germany, Prussia and Austria.
The Prussian Instructions was a standardized system of cataloging authorized in 1908. In the Prussian Instructions, titles in literature are arranged grammatically not mechanically and literature is entered under its title.[25]
After the adoption of the Paris Principles (cataloging) in 1961, Germany developed the Regeln für die alphabetische Katalogisierung [de] (RAK) in 1977.[26][27] The goal of the Paris Principles was to serve as a basis for international standardization in cataloging. Most of the cataloging codes that were developed worldwide since that time have followed the Principles.[28]
Cataloging codes[edit]
Cataloging codes prescribe which information about a bibliographic item is included in the entry and how this information is presented for the user; It may also aid to sort the entries in printing (parts of) the catalog.
Currently, most cataloging codes are similar to, or even based on, the International Standard Bibliographic Description (ISBD), a set of rules produced by the International Federation of Library Associations and Institutions (IFLA) to describe a wide range of library materials. These rules organize the bibliographic description of an item in the following eight areas: title and statement of responsibility (author or editor), edition, material specific details (for example, the scale of a map), publication and distribution, physical description (for example, number of pages), series, notes, and standard number (ISBN). There is an initiative called the Bibliographic Framework (Bibframe) that is 'an initiative to evolve bibliographic description standards to a linked data model, in order to make bibliographic information more useful both within and outside the library community.'[27] The most commonly used cataloging code in the English-speaking world was the Anglo-American Cataloguing Rules, 2nd edition (AACR2). AACR2 provides rules for descriptive cataloging only and does not touch upon subject cataloging. AACR2 has been translated into many languages, for use around the world. The German-speaking world uses the Regeln für die alphabetische Katalogisierung (RAK), also based on ISBD. The Library of Congress implemented the transition to RDA from AACR2 in March 2013.
In subject databases such as Chemical Abstracts, MEDLINE and PsycINFO, the Common Communication Format (CCF) is meant to serve as a baseline standard. Different standards prevail in archives and museums, such as CIDOC-CRM. Resource Description and Access (RDA) is a recent attempt to make a standard that crosses the domains of cultural heritage institutions.
Digital formats[edit]
Most libraries currently use the MARC standards—first piloted from January 1966 to June 1968[29] —to encode and transport bibliographic data.[30][31]These standards have seen critiques in recent years for being old, unique to the library community, and difficult to work with computationally.[32] The Library of Congress is currently developing BIBFRAME, an RDA schema for expressing bibliographic data. BIBFRAME is being revised and piloted currently by the Library of Congress, but still is not available to the public. It will first be available to vendors to try out, but afterwards there will be a hybrid form of the system (MARC and BIBFRAME) until the data can be fully translated.[33]
Library digital collections often use simpler digital formats to store their metadata. XML-based schemata, particularly Dublin Core and MODS, are typical for bibliographic data about these collections.
Transliteration[edit]
Library items that are written in a foreign script are, in some cases, transliterated to the script of the catalog. In the United States and some other countries, catalogers typically use the ALA-LC romanization tables for this work. If this is not done, there would need to be separate catalogs for each script.
Ethical issues[edit]
Ferris maintains that catalogers, in using their judgment and specialized viewpoint, uphold the integrity of the catalog and also provide 'added value' to the process of bibliographic control, resulting in added findability for a library's user community.[34]This added value also has the power to harm, resulting in the denial of access to information.[35]Mistakes and biases in cataloging records can 'stigmatize groups of people with inaccurate or demeaning labels, and create the impression that certain points of view are more normal than others'.[36]
Social responsibility in cataloging is the 'fair and equitable access to relevant, appropriate, accurate, and uncensored information in a timely manner and free of bias'.[37]In order to act ethically and in a socially responsible manner, catalogers should be aware of how their judgments benefit or harm findability. They should be careful to not misuse or misrepresent information through inaccurate or minimal-level cataloging and to not purposely or inadvertently censor information.[38]
Bair states that it is the professional obligation of catalogers to supply thorough, accurate, high-quality surrogate records for databases and that catalogers also have an ethical obligation to 'contribute to the fair and equitable access to information.'[39] Bair recommends that catalogers 'actively participate in the development, reform, and fair application of cataloging rules, standards, and classifications, as well as information-storage and retrieval systems'.[39] As stated by Knowlton, access points 'should be what a particular type of library patron would be most likely to search under -- regardless of the notion of universal bibliographic control.'[36]
A formal code of ethics for catalogers does not exist, and thus catalogers often follow library or departmental policy to resolve conflicts in cataloging. While the American Library Association created a 'Code of Ethics',[40] Ferris notes that it has been criticized for being too general to encompass the special skills that set catalogers apart from other library and information professionals.[34] As stated by Tavani, a code of ethics for catalogers can 'inspire, guide, educate, and discipline' (as cited in Bair, 2005, p. 22). Bair suggests that an effective code of ethics for catalogers should be aspirational and also 'discuss specific conduct and actions in order to serve as a guide in actual situations'. Bair has also laid out the beginnings for a formal code of cataloging ethics in 'Toward a Code of Ethics for Cataloging.'[35]
Criticism[edit]
Sanford Berman, former Head Cataloger of the Hennepin County Library in Minnetonka, Minnesota, has been a leading critic of biased headings in the Library of Congress Subject Headings. Berman's 1971 publication Prejudices and Antipathies: A Tract on the LC Subject Heads Concerning People (P&A) has sparked the movement to correct biased subject headings. In P&A, Berman listed 225 headings with proposed alterations, additions, or deletions and cross-references to 'more accurately reflect the language used in addressing these topics, to rectify errors of bias, and to better guide librarians and readers to material of interest'.[36] Berman is well known for his 'care packages,' mailings containing clippings and other materials in support of changes to subject headings and against racism, sexism, homophobia, and governmental secrecy, among other areas for concern.
In 'Three Decades Since Prejudices and Antipathies: A Study of Changes in the Library of Congress Subject Headings,' Knowlton examines ways in which the Library of Congress Subject Headings (LCSH) has changed by compiling a table of changes described in P&A, followed by the current status of headings in question. Knowlton states that his intent for this table is to 'show how many of Berman’s proposed changes have been implemented' and 'which areas of bias are still prevalent in LCSH.' In the discussion of Knowlton's findings, it is revealed that of the 225 headings suggested for change by Berman, only 88 (39%) have been changed exactly or very closely to his suggestions (p. 127). Another 54 (24%) of headings have been changed but only partially resolve Berman's objections, and 'which may leave other objectionable wording intact or introduce a different shade of bias.' 80 (36%) headings were not changed at all according to Berman's suggestions.[36]
Serials Cataloging Cheat Sheet
Queer theory and cataloging[edit]
![Cataloging Single Issue Of Serial Cataloging Single Issue Of Serial](/uploads/1/2/4/7/124789034/509915063.jpg)
Building on Berman's critique of cataloging practices, queer theorists in library and information science such as Emily Drabinski and Amber Billey have written about the implications of creating stable categorizations for gender identities.[41] Utilizing queer theory in conjunction with library classification and cataloging requires perspectives that can present both ethically and politically sound viewpoints that support marginalized persons such as women, people of color, or members of the LGBTQ+ community.[42] This work has resulted in the modification of RDA Rule 9.7, governing how gender is represented in record creation. At the ALA Midwinter meeting in January 2016, the controlled vocabulary for gender in RDA was abolished, allowing catalogers and libraries to describe a person's gender in whatever terms best represent that person.[43]
Cataloging terms[edit]
- Main entry or access point generally refers to the first author named on the item. Additional authors are added as 'added entries.' In cases where no clear author is named, the title of the work is considered the main entry.
- Authority control is a process of using a single, specific term for a person, place, or title to maintain consistency between access points within a catalog. Effective authority control prevents a user having to search for multiple variations of a title, author, or term.
- Cooperative cataloging refers to an approach in which libraries collaborate in the creation of bibliographic and authority records, establishing cataloging practices and utilizing systems that facilitate the use of shared records.[44]
See also[edit]
- Anglo-American Cataloguing Rules (AACR)
- Collaborative Cataloging (shared cataloging)
- Functional Requirements for Bibliographic Records (FRBR)
- International Standard Bibliographic Description (ISBD)
References[edit]
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- ^Hagler, Ronald (1997). The Bibliographic Record and Information Technology, 3rd ed. Chicago: American Library Association.
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- ^Strout, Ruth French (1956). 'The Development of the Catalog and Cataloging Codes.' Library Quarterly 26(4): 254-275
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- ^Lionel Casson (2002), Libraries in the Ancient World, New Haven, Conn: Yale University Press, ISBN978-0300097214, 0300097212
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- ^ abFerris, Anna M. (2008). 'The Ethics and Integrity of Cataloging'. Journal of Library Administration. 47 (3–4): 173–190. doi:10.1080/01930820802186514.
- ^ abBair, Sheila (13 September 2005). 'Toward a Code of Ethics for Cataloging'. Technical Services Quarterly. 23 (1): 13–26. doi:10.1300/J124v23n01_02.
- ^ abcdKnowlton, Steven A. (2005). 'Three Decades Since Prejudices and Antipathies: A Study of Changes in the Library of Congress Subject Headings'(PDF). Cataloging & Classification Quarterly. 40 (2): 123–145. doi:10.1300/J104v40n02_08. Retrieved 31 May 2014.
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Further reading[edit]
Library resources about Cataloging |
- Cutter, Charles (1891). Rules for a Printed Dictionary Catalogue (3rd ed.). Washington, D.C.: Government Printing Office.
- Joudrey, Daniel N.; Taylor, Arlene G.; Miller, David P. (2015). Introduction to Cataloging and Classification (11th ed.). Santa Barbara, CA: Libraries Unlimited/ABC-CLIO. ISBN978-1-59884-856-4.
- Svenonius, Elaine, ed. (1989). The Conceptual foundations of descriptive cataloging. San Diego: Academic Press. ISBN9780126782103.
- Svenonius, Elaine (2009). The intellectual foundation of information organization (1st MIT Press paperback ed.). Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press. ISBN9780262512619.
- Chan, Lois Mai (2007), Cataloging and classification (Third ed.), The Scarecrow Press, Inc., p. 321, ISBN978-0-8108-5944-9, 0810859440
- Weihs, Jean; Lewis, Shirley (1989). Nonbook materials : the organization of integrated collections (3rd ed.). Ottawa: Canadian Library Association. ISBN978-0888022400.
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